{"id":4776,"date":"2022-01-06T16:59:40","date_gmt":"2022-01-06T21:59:40","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.lovettsvillehistoricalsociety.org\/?p=4776"},"modified":"2022-01-06T16:59:40","modified_gmt":"2022-01-06T21:59:40","slug":"looking-for-our-palatine-german-ancestors-a-short-trip-to-new-yorks-mohawk-valley","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.lovettsvillehistoricalsociety.org\/index.php\/looking-for-our-palatine-german-ancestors-a-short-trip-to-new-yorks-mohawk-valley\/","title":{"rendered":"Looking for our Palatine German ancestors:  A short trip to New York\u2019s Mohawk Valley"},"content":{"rendered":"<h5 style=\"text-align: center;\">Looking for our Palatine German ancestors:<\/h5>\n<h5 style=\"text-align: center;\">A short trip to New York\u2019s Mohawk Valley<\/h5>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\">By Edward Spannaus<\/p>\n<figure id=\"attachment_4778\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-4778\" style=\"width: 676px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><a href=\"http:\/\/www.lovettsvillehistoricalsociety.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/12\/Palatine_Settlements_in_New_York_Cobb_1897.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"wp-image-4778 size-large\" src=\"http:\/\/www.lovettsvillehistoricalsociety.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/12\/Palatine_Settlements_in_New_York_Cobb_1897-799x1024.jpg\" alt=\"Palatine_Settlements_in_New_York_(Cobb_1897)\" width=\"676\" height=\"866\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.lovettsvillehistoricalsociety.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/12\/Palatine_Settlements_in_New_York_Cobb_1897-799x1024.jpg 799w, https:\/\/www.lovettsvillehistoricalsociety.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/12\/Palatine_Settlements_in_New_York_Cobb_1897-117x150.jpg 117w, https:\/\/www.lovettsvillehistoricalsociety.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/12\/Palatine_Settlements_in_New_York_Cobb_1897-234x300.jpg 234w, https:\/\/www.lovettsvillehistoricalsociety.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/12\/Palatine_Settlements_in_New_York_Cobb_1897-768x985.jpg 768w, https:\/\/www.lovettsvillehistoricalsociety.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/12\/Palatine_Settlements_in_New_York_Cobb_1897-600x769.jpg 600w, https:\/\/www.lovettsvillehistoricalsociety.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/12\/Palatine_Settlements_in_New_York_Cobb_1897-945x1212.jpg 945w, https:\/\/www.lovettsvillehistoricalsociety.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/12\/Palatine_Settlements_in_New_York_Cobb_1897.jpg 1099w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 676px) 100vw, 676px\" \/><\/a><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-4778\" class=\"wp-caption-text\"><br \/> Map shows (at lower left) Hudson River settlements, including Livingston Manor; (at center) Schoharie settlements; (at upper left) Mohawk River settlements, including Stone Arabia, Palatine Bridge, and the town of Palatine, with Herkimer and German Flats at far left.<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<p style=\"text-align: left;\">If you have visited the Lovettsville Museum, you may have seen a display called \u201cHow We Got Here: The Palatine Emigration to America, and to the German Settlement.\u201d The display traces the early 1700s routes of travel from the German Rhineland, to the Lovettsville area, and it includes a map of the Palatine Settlements in New York State, which were located in the Hudson, Mohawk, and Schoharie Valleys.[i]<\/p>\n<p>I recently had a chance to visit this area while accompanying my wife to a history event in Fort Plain, New York, in the Mohawk Valley. (Fort Plain is between \u201cPalatine\u201d and \u201cPalatine Bridge\u201d on the above map.) In just a few minutes&#8217; drive, I came across many indications of the historic Palatine presence in this area. Not just churches and historic markers \u2013 as you will see in the pictures below \u2013 but even many local businesses have \u201cPalatine\u201d in their name (such as Palatine Valley Dairy, Palatine Nursing Home, Palatine Cheese Co., etc.).<\/p>\n<figure id=\"attachment_4782\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-4782\" style=\"width: 300px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><a href=\"http:\/\/www.lovettsvillehistoricalsociety.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/12\/Palatine-Bridge-sign-2.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"wp-image-4782 size-medium\" src=\"http:\/\/www.lovettsvillehistoricalsociety.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/12\/Palatine-Bridge-sign-2-300x137.jpg\" alt=\"The town of Palatine Bridge is located near Nelliston and Fort Plain. \" width=\"300\" height=\"137\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.lovettsvillehistoricalsociety.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/12\/Palatine-Bridge-sign-2-300x137.jpg 300w, https:\/\/www.lovettsvillehistoricalsociety.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/12\/Palatine-Bridge-sign-2-150x69.jpg 150w, https:\/\/www.lovettsvillehistoricalsociety.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/12\/Palatine-Bridge-sign-2-600x275.jpg 600w, https:\/\/www.lovettsvillehistoricalsociety.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/12\/Palatine-Bridge-sign-2.jpg 653w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/a><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-4782\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">The town of Palatine Bridge is located near Nelliston and Fort Plain.<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\"><strong>New York \u2013&gt; Pennsylvania \u2013&gt; Virginia<\/strong><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: left;\">Few, if any, of the Germans who established Loudoun County\u2019s German Settlement in the early 18<sup>th<\/sup> century came here directly from Germany. Although it is well-known that the First Families of Lovettsville and the surrounding area came from Pennsylvania and Maryland, what is less well-known is that a number of those families first landed to the New York colony in 1709-10, and then relocated to Pennsylvania, many between 1723 and 1729.<\/p>\n<p>This is reported in some\u00a0histories, including James Head\u2019s <em>History of Loudoun County, Virginia, <\/em>published in 1908,[ii] and William Eisenberg\u2019s history of the Lutherans in Virginia. Eisenberg wrote that \u201cPalatines from the Hudson River dispersion had moved first to Pennsylvania, and from there to this region [northwestern Loudoun County] of northern Virginia about 1732.\u201d Eisenberg says the first settlers were predominately of the German Reformed faith, and they were later joined by Lutherans coming from Pennsylvania and Maryland.[iii]<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<figure id=\"attachment_4784\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-4784\" style=\"width: 300px\" class=\"wp-caption alignleft\"><a href=\"http:\/\/www.lovettsvillehistoricalsociety.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/12\/Palatine-Church-full-view.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"wp-image-4784 size-medium\" src=\"http:\/\/www.lovettsvillehistoricalsociety.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/12\/Palatine-Church-full-view-300x225.jpg\" alt=\"Located on NY State Route 5, between Nelliston and St. Johnsville, at the intersection of Palatine Church Road, a few miles from Trinity Lutheran Church at Stone Arabia\" width=\"300\" height=\"225\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.lovettsvillehistoricalsociety.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/12\/Palatine-Church-full-view-300x225.jpg 300w, https:\/\/www.lovettsvillehistoricalsociety.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/12\/Palatine-Church-full-view-150x112.jpg 150w, https:\/\/www.lovettsvillehistoricalsociety.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/12\/Palatine-Church-full-view-768x576.jpg 768w, https:\/\/www.lovettsvillehistoricalsociety.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/12\/Palatine-Church-full-view-1024x768.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/www.lovettsvillehistoricalsociety.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/12\/Palatine-Church-full-view-600x450.jpg 600w, https:\/\/www.lovettsvillehistoricalsociety.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/12\/Palatine-Church-full-view-945x708.jpg 945w, https:\/\/www.lovettsvillehistoricalsociety.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/12\/Palatine-Church-full-view.jpg 1182w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/a><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-4784\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Palatine Church, located on NY State Route 5, between Nelliston and St. Johnsville, at the intersection of Palatine Church Road, a few miles from Trinity Lutheran Church at Stone Arabia<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<p>The late pastor Michael Kretsinger of New Jerusalem Lutheran Church undertook extensive genealogical studies of the families of the German Settlement. Based on his research and his experiences with others researching their family background, he concluded that \u201cSome of the early Lovettsville Lutherans, and, who knows, perhaps some of the earliest settlers of Lovettsville, are descendants of the early Lutheran (Palatine) settlements of New York.\u201d[iv]<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: left;\">But first \u2013 how did the Palatines come to settle in upstate New York? The Rhine Valley and adjacent areas had been devastated by the Thirty Years War and those that followed it. During the severe cold of the winter of 1709-1710, over 10,000 \u201cPalatines\u201d refugees \u2013 they came not just from the Palatinate,<a href=\"#_ftn1\" name=\"_ftnref1\">[1]<\/a> but also from W\u00fcrttemburg, Bavaria, and other areas \u2013 swarmed into London. Under the sponsorship of Queen Anne, 3000 to 4000 of them were sent to the New York colony.<\/p>\n<figure id=\"attachment_4779\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-4779\" style=\"width: 101px\" class=\"wp-caption alignright\"><a href=\"http:\/\/www.lovettsvillehistoricalsociety.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/12\/Conrad-Weiser-Portrait.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"wp-image-4779 size-thumbnail\" src=\"http:\/\/www.lovettsvillehistoricalsociety.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/12\/Conrad-Weiser-Portrait-101x150.jpg\" alt=\"Conrad Weiser\" width=\"101\" height=\"150\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.lovettsvillehistoricalsociety.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/12\/Conrad-Weiser-Portrait-101x150.jpg 101w, https:\/\/www.lovettsvillehistoricalsociety.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/12\/Conrad-Weiser-Portrait-202x300.jpg 202w, https:\/\/www.lovettsvillehistoricalsociety.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/12\/Conrad-Weiser-Portrait.jpg 220w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 101px) 100vw, 101px\" \/><\/a><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-4779\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Conrad Weiser<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<p>Most of those who survived the grueling journal were sent up the Hudson to Livingston Manor, north of Newburgh, where they were put to work extracting pine tar for the English Navy. When the proprietors realized that they were tapping the wrong kind of pine tree, the project was terminated in 1712, and the Palatines dispersed into the Schoharie and Mohawk Valleys, with some ultimately relocating to Pennsylvania in the Tulpehocken Valley, west of Reading, whence came a number of Lovettsville families. The move to Pennsylvania was led by Johann Conrad Weiser in 1723; he was followed some years later by his son Conrad Weiser, the famous ambassador to the Indians of the Six Nations. (Conrad Weiser was the subject of an April 2014 presentation in our <a href=\"http:\/\/www.lovettsvillehistoricalsociety.org\/index.php\/events-lectures\/2014-lectures\/\">lecture series<\/a>, given by a direct Weiser descendant.)<\/p>\n<figure id=\"attachment_4781\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-4781\" style=\"width: 292px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><a href=\"http:\/\/www.lovettsvillehistoricalsociety.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/12\/Palatines-Stone-Arabia-sign-2.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"wp-image-4781 size-medium\" src=\"http:\/\/www.lovettsvillehistoricalsociety.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/12\/Palatines-Stone-Arabia-sign-2-292x300.jpg\" alt=\"Historic marker near Trinity Lutheran Church, which reads: \u201cStone Arabia. Lutheran Church 1792. Also site of log church 1729. Settled by Palatines 1712.\u201d\" width=\"292\" height=\"300\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.lovettsvillehistoricalsociety.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/12\/Palatines-Stone-Arabia-sign-2-292x300.jpg 292w, https:\/\/www.lovettsvillehistoricalsociety.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/12\/Palatines-Stone-Arabia-sign-2-146x150.jpg 146w, https:\/\/www.lovettsvillehistoricalsociety.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/12\/Palatines-Stone-Arabia-sign-2-600x616.jpg 600w, https:\/\/www.lovettsvillehistoricalsociety.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/12\/Palatines-Stone-Arabia-sign-2.jpg 692w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 292px) 100vw, 292px\" \/><\/a><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-4781\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Historic marker near Trinity Lutheran Church<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<p>The Palatines in New York who moved west, beyond the Schoharie Valley, were led by a small number who settled at Stone Arabia, north of the Mohawk River, in 1712, where they began to organize a Lutheran church.<\/p>\n<figure id=\"attachment_4788\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-4788\" style=\"width: 253px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><a href=\"http:\/\/www.lovettsvillehistoricalsociety.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/12\/Palatines-Trinity-Church-2.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"wp-image-4788 size-medium\" src=\"http:\/\/www.lovettsvillehistoricalsociety.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/12\/Palatines-Trinity-Church-2-253x300.jpg\" alt=\"Inscription reads: \u201cOriginal Location of the First Log Church of the Palatines. Built 1729, Burned by the Tories and Indians Oct. 19, 1780. Present Church Dedicated July 1, 1792.\u201d\" width=\"253\" height=\"300\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.lovettsvillehistoricalsociety.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/12\/Palatines-Trinity-Church-2-253x300.jpg 253w, https:\/\/www.lovettsvillehistoricalsociety.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/12\/Palatines-Trinity-Church-2-127x150.jpg 127w, https:\/\/www.lovettsvillehistoricalsociety.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/12\/Palatines-Trinity-Church-2-600x710.jpg 600w, https:\/\/www.lovettsvillehistoricalsociety.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/12\/Palatines-Trinity-Church-2.jpg 686w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 253px) 100vw, 253px\" \/><\/a><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-4788\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Trinity Lutheran Church; Inscription reads: \u201cOriginal Location of the First Log Church of the Palatines. Built 1729, Burned by the Tories and Indians Oct. 19, 1780. Present Church Dedicated July 1, 1792.\u201d<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<p>From there the German Palatines continued west to German Flats and other areas made famous in the 1939 movie <em>Drums Along the Mohawk<\/em>. Many of their descendants still live there today, and the spires of numerous churches of the Lutheran and German Reformed denominations dot the countryside and the towns of the Mohawk Valley to the present time.<\/p>\n<p>Later this year, I hope to visit the Old Stone Fort Museum in Schoharie, which is now closed for the winter, in order to learn more about the Palatines in New York State.<\/p>\n<p>End Notes:<\/p>\n<p>[i]\u00a0 \u201cPalatine\u201d or \u201cPalatinate\u201d referred to the territories under the Elector Palatine of the Holy Roman Empire. However, it came to be used to refer to all German-speaking immigrants in the 18<sup>th<\/sup> century &#8212;\u00a0 who as a group were quite distinct from the German-speaking immigrants of the 19<sup>th<\/sup> century, and tended to settle in the U.S. Middle West.<\/p>\n<p>[ii]\u00a0 James W. Head, <em>History and comprehensive description of Loudoun County, Virginia,<\/em> (1908), p.111. Available online through Hathi Trust: <a href=\"https:\/\/catalog.hathitrust.org\/Record\/006233594\">https:\/\/catalog.hathitrust.org\/Record\/006233594<\/a><\/p>\n<p>[iii]\u00a0 William E. Eisenberg, T<em>he Lutheran Church in Virginia <\/em>1717-1952, (1967).<\/p>\n<p>[iv]\u00a0 Michael W. Kretsinger, A People of God in Mission: New Jerusalem Lutheran Church Paris, Lovettsville, Virginia, Vol. II, pp. 3-4.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Looking for our Palatine German ancestors: A short trip to New York\u2019s Mohawk Valley By Edward Spannaus If you have visited the Lovettsville Museum, you may have seen a display&hellip;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":4777,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[1],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-4776","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-uncategorized"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.lovettsvillehistoricalsociety.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/4776","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.lovettsvillehistoricalsociety.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.lovettsvillehistoricalsociety.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.lovettsvillehistoricalsociety.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.lovettsvillehistoricalsociety.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=4776"}],"version-history":[{"count":20,"href":"https:\/\/www.lovettsvillehistoricalsociety.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/4776\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":4820,"href":"https:\/\/www.lovettsvillehistoricalsociety.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/4776\/revisions\/4820"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.lovettsvillehistoricalsociety.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media\/4777"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.lovettsvillehistoricalsociety.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=4776"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.lovettsvillehistoricalsociety.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=4776"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.lovettsvillehistoricalsociety.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=4776"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}